Talk:Brother of the Dark Assassins (3.5e Prestige Class)

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For the first two levels, Assassins who take this class are actually worse off than taking normal Assassin levels. Your Death Attack does not improve, and instead you have to save against Wis damage every day. The abilities at levels 3-5 had better be really amazing to make that worth it.

"Through the teachings of Salavr you have become a master of interrogation. When ever you make a sense motive check or bluff check against an opponent they must make a Will Save (DC 15 + Brother of the Dark Assassins Level) if they fail there roll is treated as a natural 1."

I don't get this ability. First of all, the Intimidate skill is used for interrogation. Second, what's different if the roll is treated as a natural one? A natural one only means a failed save, right? --Mkill 23:51, 18 June 2007 (MDT)

Replys

By a natural one it means as if it was a 1 on D20 dice.

Yeah, that part is clear. I think you didn't get what I wanted to say. Look at the SRD:

A natural 1 (the d20 comes up 1) on a saving throw is always a failure (and may cause damage to exposed items; see Items Surviving after a Saving Throw).

So, what your class ability does is, it changes a failed save into ... a failed save. So basicly nothing happens. Sense Motive or Bluff can't destroy items, so no effect there either. Which means... this class feature is useless as written. Maybe you mean that another roll (not the Will save) is treated as a natural one, but that's not what it says. Please rewrite. --Mkill 01:23, 19 June 2007 (MDT)

Ah ok I get what you mean now. I think I have fixed this. ShadowyFigure 08:23, 19 June 2007 (MDT)

I'm confused[edit]

What do you want this class to accomplish?