Talk:Archanians (3.5e Race)

Despite the penalties you've given the race, flight is always gives a race LA +1 or +2 (depending on maneuverability, which you need to state).

"Archanians get one feat instead of two at level one." - All characters begin with one feat, not two (apart from humans).

Some of the other traits are ill-defined so it's difficult to judge what exactly the LA should be. To be honest, I would scrap the penalties that you've put in. Marasmusine (talk) 10:38, 30 August 2013 (MDT)

   Ok, thanks. I'll get to work immediately. --TheChronicler (talk) 17:02, 30 August 2013 (MDT)

Ok, so I re-edited it a bit, not much, though, don't want to go too far in one jump, and I calculated (really just hypothesized) the different LAs. They have flight of good maneuverability, giving LA+2; I reduced regeneration to 1, and I'm guessing that it would be LA+1 or LA+2, not sure; Then there's the flaw (Deafening) that all Archanians have, giving them a LA-1(?); and they get no starting feat, I'm not sure if that would take away a LA; then they have LA-4 due to have -2 Dex and -2 Cha. I'm guessing my character may have LA-1 at the most, but I'm not sure. If I'm correct, I'll need to find an LA+1 ability, if I'm wrong, I'll have to go and recalculate again. Your thoughts?

In my opinion, the regeneration was fine at 2, since it only applies to non-lethal damage (also, this trait needs reflecting in their physical description).

Deafening isn't worth -1, since sonic attacks are quite rare (what is there? The destrechan, yrthak, sirrush? Not common monsters).

They are supposed to be beautiful and enchanting, but have -2 Cha? Is the reason they have only negative ability modifiers to bring them down to 0 LA? I honestly don't believe in negative contributions to LAs, since a player can build around these and end up getting the positives "for free". Marasmusine (talk) 01:31, 31 August 2013 (MDT)

As I said earlier, I'm just trying to balance it out correctly first, then I'll worry about the exact details after I have it solved. As always, I thank you for your help in this. --TheChronicler (talk) 02:12, 31 August 2013 (MDT)

Heya. They still have good flight, so still need an LA. It doesn't matter what drawbacks you give them. Give them back their level 1 feat - you're breaking a standardization for the sake of trying to balance them and it isn't working. If you're trying to make a LA0 creature with flight, take a look at [1]. Marasmusine (talk) 01:11, 12 September 2013 (MDT)

Thanks for the help, however, I don't want my Archanians to be gliders. That defeats the purpose for their wings. I've already dumbed them down a lot (little info for ya: Archanians are a god-like race from the world I've creating for years) and I don't want to make them any less spectacular than I've already done. At the same time, I don't want to give them an LA because that would discourage a large portion of people from using this race. --TheChronicler (talk) 13:15, 13 September 2013 (MDT)