Talk:Adamantine Ring (5e Equipment)

I created this item for it to look like it is a trash/low worth item if seen and to be over looked in campaigns, but reward those that took it, and looked into it, by you taking/editing and moving it you have completely changed the core concept I made it for it is not a ring made of adamantine it is made of copper. If you wanted an adamite ring then you should make that on your own not take an item with a different core concept and change it into it like making a variant of the item. This item was a work in progress build I was doing even the Anti-crit name for it was just a place holder for it till I came up with a better original name then that or copper ring of anti-crit, then I forgot my password to the account I made it with and the group I was making it for went on hiatus soon after cause someone got sick and someone was moving so I ended up dragging my feet on filling it out adding more detail, making other items i had ideas for and rewording my flavor to the item and finishing it. Long story short I wrote it and the changes I made to it for the concept I was going for with the item you have changed completely from its base of being a copper ring but on your page you said you Rescued it you didn't rescue it you made it a totally different item. For editing I read it is this "If you are going to be editing a page's mechanics, you should familiarize yourself with the precedent for that edition's mechanics.

Generally, it is good to fix mechanics to do what they were intended to do, but bad wording was preventing. Users will usually thank you for helping them get a clearer wording.

You can change game mechanics, but as a courtesy you should ask the author of the page on the talk page, also leaving a Message of Interest on the author's personal talk page, before making any major changes. Pages can always be reverted, so if you want, you can just change it without asking. For a page that is new or has had a lot of work put into it, it is much more polite to ask first."

Did you ask me if you could change my content ? as I don't have access to my account I can't prove if you did or not, but you gutted the concept of the item as it was written in what it did and changed it to a different item, so I changed it back to its concept as the main author/creator of the page I have a right to. The item I made was made of copper not adamantine so the item name makes no sense to be called that. if you want an adamantine one then maybe make a variant that is made of that. I still thank you for your editing and work on the item to make more sense with wording for the extras and adding on, but you miss the concept I was going for with the item when I made it which is why I didn't fully revert it cause your wording made better sense then the dripple I had put in as place holder for me to better flesh it out and fix wording later. when I made this account to rename the item to a more fitting name and add the flavor text its transforming to the wearer and idea that it was made for that. I mean no disrespect in this just that you lost the plot on what the item was about cause you got caught up in the power not the concept I was going for when I started making it. If you could tell me how we can work this out so I can still have my concept on the item I made at first (its shape and appearance changing of the ring, tp the wears preference.) as it was made without causing you issue or to revert it again, please let me know cause I like the changes you made just not that it is held to the title of adamantine when the item wasn't made to be that and had differences from it with the anti-crit added on it.Nav kai (talk) NavKai

Hoo boy there's a lot to unpack there. Firstly, the base concept of this item has not changed. It does not have a physical description, aside from the general concept of ring-shaped, and can be flavored as literally anything. You can still flavor it as an unassuming copper ring in your games, there's nothing stopping this from happening. Secondly, this page had been left for a period of two months before I touched it, during which time no further edits were made by either contributor. Rather than apply an Abandoned template to it, I contributed to it as I thought best, according to the spirit of the page. That is what a "rescued" page is - something that would otherwise have been left abandoned and then, eventually, deleted, but for the intervention of a user. In this case, I was that user.

The spirit of this item remains intact. It is a ring that grants a bonus to armor class and provides the benefits of adamantine armor. As this is not an artifact, it requires no extraneous fluff - flavor is dependent on the players and GM to provide. At present, it is all it needs to be.

I would note for the record that if you did in fact lose access to your original account, then you cannot actually prove that you are the same user. Though I have never used them myself, I believe there are methods by which an account may be recovered, and I encourage you to apply them. In any case, the page will remain in its current state unless it is agreed upon by multiple users that a change would be for the better, as it is across the wiki as a whole. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 16:21, 16 March 2021 (MDT)

I believe in my infinite wisdom I did not connect an email to it so it is long lost but I am the one that made it. if you need proof I have private DMS from the day i made it where I shared it with my DM who told me the plus to AC made it too OP. I see your point and I yield to you on it cause you speak sense and I see your light sorry for the over react and thank you for saving it. Nav kai (talk) 16:55, 16 March 2021 (MDT) Navkai

Turns out you were right and I realized what I was doing wrong, thanks for the tip. Hope this proves I am the same user that started this item. NavKai (talk) 22:23, 16 March 2021 (MDT) NavKai