Discussion:Need help making a minotaur pc

Okay so im still fairly new to the game and i want to make a big brute creature to play so i found a minataur but i dont know how to set it up. Our party is level 5 almost 6 and the LA of a minataur is +2 but the racial features said that it starts with 6 levels in monsterous humanoid any help please

Marasmusine (talk) 02:44, 15 May 2014 (MDT)

Hi, I'm assuming you're using the racial traits at SRD:Minotaur.

Your effective character level (ECL) would be 8 (6 from racial HD and 2 from LA). ECL is only used for determining how much XP you need to level up and your starting equipment.

The simplest way for you to start as a level 5 or 6 character is for you to either:

• Start with less racial HD.
• Start without the traits that contribute towards the LA (say, natural armor, charge, a few points of Strength)

Then as you level up, instead of taking class levels, you add back on the racial HD or traits until your ECL is 8 again. When you level up again, you can start taking class levels.

Here's how to make your character with 3 racial HD instead of 6, so that you can start as a level 5 character. Use the racial traits at SRD:Minotaur except:

• You have 3 levels of monstrous humanoid. This gives you 3d8 Hit Dice (Your actual hit points will be 8 + 2d8 + 3*Con mod), Base Attack Bonus +3, Fort +1, Ref +3, Will +3
• Skill points are 6 * (2 + Int modifier)
• 2 Feats

• At ECL 6: 4d8 HD; BAB +4; Fort +1, Ref +4, Will +4; + (2 + Int mod) skill points
• At ECL 7: 5d8 HD; BAB +5; Fort +1, Ref +4, Will +4; + (2 + Int mod) skill points
• At ECL 8: 6d8 HD; BAB +6; Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +5; + (2 + Int mod) skill points; +1 Feat
• At ECL 9 you can take your first level of Barbarian (or whatever).

As you can see, the progression is unfortunately unexciting. In Savage Species there is a progression that combines the HD and LA that is more satisfactory.

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