Talk:Wastecrawler (3.5e Race)
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Hu-whuh?[edit]
How is that worth a +3 LA? I'd seriously let this in with no Racial HD and definitely no LA. If someone insisted, the one Racial HD is sufficient. The only thing I can think of that's remotely amazing is the 6 arms, and, even then, fighting with multiple weapons imposes a ton of penalties. Even the Tremorsense isn't bad, considering the limited reach. Or is it a case of slapping LA on them because they're monstrous humanoid and ugly, and therefore there must be a penalty for any deviant who wants to play a non-standard character? -- Genowhirl 09:49, 7 January 2009 (MST)
- It's a case of slapping on LA and HD because if a wastecrawler had no LA or HD, it could be a rogue 14/fighter 6 with greater multiweapon fighting at ECL 20 and deal 133d6 sneak attack damage with a full attack. --Daniel Draco 06:07, 8 January 2009 (MST)
- Oh, and if multiclass penalties are used, ranger works just as well as fighter does for that. --Daniel Draco 06:08, 8 January 2009 (MST)
- Compelling reason. Still, I'm uneasy about nailing an entire race with an LA because of one build. If nothing else, put it all on Racial HD. At least a character gets hit points and saves and skills from from that. There's a ton of effects which are HD-dependent, making this race a target for them when they have 3 HD less than the rest of the party. -- Genowhirl 20:58, 10 January 2009 (MST)
- Hm. HD 2 lower than the rest of the party? Not too bad. I have a deep-seated aversion to the principles of LA, but I've seen some very awesome things done with LA +2 characters, which is just about the limit (otherwise another character's cohort would be packing more caster level/HD than you, and that's just...not good). On a side note, I apologize if I'm being brash. Every so often, my brain sends down instructions to "Open mouth, insert foot." -- Genowhirl 12:30, 12 January 2009 (MST)