User talk:Jazzman831/Archive 3

Half-Life Setting

Hey mate. It's Crysis2. I apologize for the lack of formatting with the Half-Life setting. I'm attempting to fix this now. Actually, when I started, I just put down descriptions from other websites. I am deleting them all and replacing them. Anyways, thanks for whipping it into shape. I appreciate it!

Delete

Hey I noticed you put the delete template on the complete ninja handbook.... For 2.5e.... U said it is nothing but headers... That's because I havent had the time to work on filling it in..... Dj00345 16:42, 5 May 2011 (MDT)

Well, that's why I put the delete template. Any page that isn't up to snuff is eligible for deletion... though realistically pages don't get deleted all that often. And really, if someone deleted the blank page, what have you really lost anyway? JazzMan 21:34, 5 May 2011 (MDT)

Sandbox

hey... since i always see your name on the sandbox page in the miscellaneous section. i wanted to let you know... someone just edited above the double line again.... do you want me to remove it? Dj00345 17:33, 12 May 2011 (MDT)

It's not really that big of a deal, it's just the sandbox. In fact, there's no rule that says only mods can clean it out, so if you ever want to then feel free! JazzMan 22:47, 12 May 2011 (MDT)

Regarding your religious propaganda and page protections thereof

Don't try to spread religious propaganda, in the name of 'preventing someone from sneaking in ideological edits'. [1] This is a roleplaying site, not a soapbox to spread your abrahamic religion, protecting the pages so that no one can stop you, under the guise of 'preventing vandalism and bickering', and being vindictive enough to wikistalk a person who makes an edit that prevents such propaganda. [2] [3] [4] [5] Archetyper 19:45, 13 May 2011 (MDT)

... Propaganda? Really? As you mentioned this is a roleplay site. If we are going to have deities related to actual religions we are going to keep them as broadly applicable as possible. Significantly more people will be offended at calling God "evil" than they will at calling him "good". If this bothers you, then find a religious wiki and discuss it there. As it is, we aim to offend the fewest number of people possible.

As for "wikistalking", please remember that I am a moderator, and it is my duty to help upkeep the site. If someone makes one edit that looks suspicious, ideological, trolling, or heck, even someone who forgets to categorize pages or messes up a template, it's my SOP to go through that person's contributions to ensure that they haven't done the same thing elsewhere. You tend to find that a person who does something one time has done it a few times before. If you have a problem with that, then well, I'm sorry. Perhaps the wiki format, with publicly-viewable edit histories, is not for you. JazzMan 20:29, 13 May 2011 (MDT)

Your argument is clearly insincere, because the thing that would offend the least people would be to not include those two gods in this wiki at all. If the absence of religious propaganda bothers you, then find a religious wiki and post those two deities there. Archetyper 20:57, 13 May 2011 (MDT)

You seem to think I was the one who made those entries in the first place, or that I have some vested interest in keeping them on the site. Frankly, I don't care about them other than to attempt to keep the peace. It's been decided that deities based on real-life religions are allowable on this wiki, and frankly that doesn't offend all that many people, because we allow any deity. If a description of a deity seems like propaganda to you, then just don't read it. All homebrew content on this site is optional, plain and simple. Like any other page on the wiki, if you want to make a radical edit (like flipping the alignment), discuss it on the talk page first. JazzMan 22:43, 13 May 2011 (MDT)

Catholic scripture considers the alignment of God, Christian Faith and Adonai good. These deities are based off scriptures and such a drastic change is outside of their bounds.

Your character may believe what they believe. You may include this into your campaign as you see fit.

People being offended on D&D Wiki, however, is important and things are in place to prevent offense. For example see also Meta Pages#Policies. The restriction of certain content has been decided to be irrelevant, so articles like God, Christian Faith and Adonai are not restricted. You mention that this leads to offense, however as the articles are for D&D they are intended to augment one's gameplay and not for other reasons. Your character may believe what they believe. You may include this into your campaign as you see fit.

“	If someone makes one edit that looks suspicious, ideological, trolling, or heck, even someone who forgets to categorize pages or messes up a template, it's my SOP to go through that person's contributions to ensure that they haven't done the same thing elsewhere. You tend to find that a person who does something one time has done it a few times before.	”
—JazzMan 20:29, 13 May 2011 (MDT)

Is correct. --Green Dragon 21:36, 16 May 2011 (MDT)

Jazzman, meet your boss

You don't quite know him yet, but you're getting close to it, I think. ~A Wiki Watcher

Oh, no, I'm not naive. I've seen it before and I recognized it pretty quickly. Of course, on Conservapedia the motivation for craziness is pretty clear; here, not so much. JazzMan 17:23, 29 May 2011 (MDT)

Patrolling edits

Hey, so I'm getting the hang of this Admin thing, with one exception. When you patrol edits, do you ever actually mark the page as patrolled? Should I be doing that? Should we be patrolling every edit, and marking them as such, or just the suspicious ones (by IPs, huge chunks taken out, etc)? Do pages one of us mark as patrolled show up as "patrolled" for the other? --Badger 14:29, 29 June 2011 (MDT)

I think it's basically not used. Any edit that anyone but a select few people makes is considered "unpatrolled" (I think GD and BD are the only ones whose edits are not considered unpatrolled). In order to "patrol" an edit, you have to do it manually by clicking the patrol button when viewing the diff. In a perfect world, one of us should be looking over every edit and marking it as patrolled to signify to the others that it's not spam or vandalism, but in reality if everybody doesn't do it then it's a lot of (mostly wasted) work for the person who does do it. JazzMan 15:10, 29 June 2011 (MDT)

All Hail Jay

Jazz! What up bro. Still kickin' it old school, I see. Classy classy. You always aimed to impress. I like that. Listen, broski. Can you do ol' JayJay a favor. See, I've been itching to get my article 'Hybrid Elite Warrior' a perfect rating. 20 out of glorious 20. ...Ssspt. But? I can't do that without a perfect formatting score. ...Which? Up until this point. Was mostly my fault. I hadn't added an NPC to the page. Thus, imperfect. ... But now! Now, I have added it. Tada! Perfection ensues. Anyway! I was hoping you and your Admin buddies could drop by the page and give it some ratings. Ya know. Honest ratings and such. (But seriously I only need one 5/5 Formating Score to do the trick. Hehehe.) ... Yep. Long story short, if you could do that for ol' Uncle Jay. That would be great. Love ya buddy! Hugs and kisses. (Un-gay-like hugs and kisses, btw. Thats just gross.) ... Okay. Say hello to family for me. Adios my Mexican amigo! Keep it Realzzz! --Jay Freedman 02:25, 6 July 2011 (MDT)(PS: Vote for Jay Freedman as the King of the Universe. Okay bye.)

Ha ha, you are crazy. I'll take a look at it. Though I must warn, I rarely give perfect ratings, so you might not want me to mess it up. JazzMan 13:11, 7 July 2011 (MDT)

Haha. You totally messed it up. I was milking the system bro. And now! Look at it. You totally made it "bleh". Haha. I am never asking you for help again. You meany head. --Jay Freedman 19:31, 7 July 2011 (MDT) (I am a PageView scoundrel.)

Gears of War CS

Alright, so I'm working my way through the candidates for deletion, and I've hit the GoW setting. I'm trying to save as much as possible from it, and that's making trouble for me. So, I'm here to ask your opinion. What I'm doing right now is deleting things that only relate to the setting, and re-labeling/moving content that could be used in other settings (creatures, equipment, etc). Should I bother? The only reason I'm asking you is because they'll all get dumped into d20M, which is your baby on this site (whether you like it or not). So, thoughts? --Badger 17:34, 23 August 2011 (MDT)

Also, I'm not just dumping them into d20M because they have lasers and spaceships. I'm putting them in d20M because they already had the category d20M. I've read your userpage. :) --Badger 17:51, 23 August 2011 (MDT)

I like to keep the creatures etc. if they can be used outside the setting, but that really depends on the quality. I'll look them over tomorrow and see what's what. And thanks for the consideration :) JazzMan 19:47, 23 August 2011 (MDT)

Er, maybe it's because I'm tired, but I don't know where any of the GoW content is did you already move it? If so, it's fine putting it there. Theoretically one of these days I'll feel productive and go over all of the d20M stuff anyway, so if there's anything that shouldn't be there I'll move/delete it then. As it is, I think I'm just about the only person in the world who uses the d20M stuff, so nobody will really notice... JazzMan 18:46, 26 August 2011 (MDT)

Yeah, it turns out it was only like two creatures and a few pieces of equipment (most of which already had d20M breadcrumbs). I guess consider this a heads up that there are a few more pages in d20M, and they might not be formatted properly. There's another d20M campaign setting or two in the deletion queue, so you may be getting a few more pages when I get around to passing judgement on them. --Badger 19:00, 26 August 2011 (MDT)

Ok, good to know. For the most part, I think the ones up for deletion didn't have any content worth saving anyway. But you never know, sometimes I get grumpy and raise the bar a bit. JazzMan 19:20, 26 August 2011 (MDT)

Well, what do you think about this? Someone clearly put a lot of work into writing out about 20 weapons, and as many pieces of armor. They're a mess of formatting, and I delete them as quick as anyone, but I'll just throw "d20M" and "wikify" on them, and let someone else make a page for each (if you think it'll ever actually happen). --Badger 20:31, 26 August 2011 (MDT)

Warning policy rework

I'm working on an official warning policy that should more clearly illustrate the purposes of the system. The new policy can be found here. If you would contribute thoughts on the talk page, that would be most helpful. Thanks. --Badger 15:58, 4 September 2011 (MDT)

Thanks

Thanks for telling me! your message finally taught me how to at least communicate. up until now that was my only way of communicating. Im just starting so please forgive my inability to communicate. tips on how to navigate this site would be nice and if this message goes awry its because in it Im just trying to copy everybody else. -- Loophole finder! 26 September 2011 (MDT)

The best place to tell/ask someone about any changes you want to make on a page is on that page's "talk" page. If you look up at the bar at the top you will see tabs for "page", "discussion", "edit", "move", "history", and "watch". "Discussion" is what you want. You will also notice when you click on this that you have a new tab with a plus sign. Click this whenever you are starting a new topic and it will create a new section for you. In general, don't make edits like changing the CR by a factor of 10 without a really good explanation as to why that should be done. If you are doing it just for fun, it might be better to create an entirely new page, and make a variant of the original. JazzMan 18:55, 26 September 2011 (MDT)

Thanks. I was doing it for communication mainly and partly because I thought that either Urgalz should be less powerful or Knasari more. I'm sorry for the vandalism and how do you create a page including decifering all the stuff "they" already have up there. Loophole finder!

I'm not really sure what you mean, but it seems like you've already figured out how to make new creatures. Insanely overpowered, ridiculous new creatures... JazzMan 09:04, 28 September 2011 (MDT)

yeah. I know. but, I'd rather test out whether or not I'm able to do anything overpowered creatures since I'm almost surely going to delete them soon after anyway. that is if there deletable. I should have thought of that. are they? anyway what I meant was when you decide to make a new class the page has all this "stuff" in a "language" that I never learned. where would I find say templates and or instructions to making reasonable races and classes? Loophole finder!

Well don't go making anything that you *want* to get deleted; all that does is just muck up the wiki. If you want a space to test out some stuff try a subpage of your userpage, for instance User:Loophole finder!/sandbox. Click that link and edit that page there, and it will be out of the main wiki. As for the "language", it's mostly explained. Just be sure to read anything placed in "comments" tags. <!-- Comments look like these.--> In general, replace them (including the arrows) with whatever the text tells you to replace it with. When you create a new page there's usually also some instructions in the edit window (the first time you create it, but not after you've saved it), or hidden in comment tags somewhere (which you can see while editing). If you are still having problems, compare what you are doing to page that's already been completed. Click "edit" to see the code on that page, and then compare to what displays on the page; you should pretty quickly understand how it all works. If you still have specific questions, then let me know. Wikis tend to take a little while to get used to, but as long as you stay slow and don't try to do everything at once it's not too bad. JazzMan 20:36, 28 September 2011 (MDT)

Thanks for the info. you make it sound like they can but I've looked and I can't find it so I'm guessing only admin can. if you can it'd be a big favor and I'd be in your debt. even though I haven't really done anything to deserve it I really would like it. Loophole finder!

I'm not really sure what it is you're asking me to do, but there's nothing I've told you about that can only be done by an admin. JazzMan 15:00, 1 October 2011 (MDT)